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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

I know 2 people who got the J&J. One who had a stroke from blood clots 3 months later, and now has prostrate cancer that has spread to his spine. I don't know if he got any boosters. The other one who got a J&J, had no known adverse effects, though I know he got at least one booster, and got very sick after that. Seems fine since.

Yeah, don't get any is the best advice.

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Bigs's avatar

I had heart issues and a transient stroke from Sinovac, a simple "dead virus" type. They all seem damn toxic

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Kathleen Devanney. A human.'s avatar

Yes they do. As, Turtles All the Way Down spells out. None of them are safe. I think it's a narrative quickly crumbling. Hope your health restores fully. I think our bodies are quite amazing at healing.

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Patricia's avatar

Fascinating. I am in the UK and when I tell people about the vaccines being NOT safe and effective I do get people asking me questions like -'is the Astra Zeneca safer than the mRNA?' I don't feel I have sufficient information to give any kind of an informed answer so I invariably end up talking about LNPs, DNA contamination and IgG4 with mRNA vaccines but have little to say about the adenovirus ones. This article has added to my knowledge.

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Bigs's avatar

On the downside, the AZ was discontinued in various countries because it was impossible to hide the high rate of blood clots...

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Patricia's avatar

Yes true but there are a lot of people I know who took the AZ. They have had no adverse effects so far but when I say vaccines bad I guess they want some re-assurance that they have not been damaged. I never know quite what to say.

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Sophocles's avatar

My feeling is that if you survived the clotting issues with AZ, and aren’t planning any children, you’re probably safer than with mRNA over the longer term . Except maybe cancer risk.

I’m grateful every day I had the instinct (I can rationalise it, I’m a scientist, but if I’m honest my instincts were screaming NO first) to not touch this stuff & refuse it for my children too.

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VM's avatar

I knew of 2 cases of people that developed herpes zoster after 6-9 months of the second shot of Astra Zeneca.

One year later of the herpes, they were still people with very poor health, common cold every 2-4 weeks.

Before the shots they were pretty healthy.

One went for the booster and the other don’t. Don’t know their actual health status.

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Carole's avatar

My friend took one J&J shot and before a year was out developed a stage four cancer with an unknown primary source. After chemo, she is in remission, but must do Keytruda infusions for two years. The uninsured fee for Keytruda is $50,000 a bag.

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Overcomer's avatar

Nothing but a racket!

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Christine Pincket's avatar

I get saline drips using IV at my wellness place. They are all over the country. What do you think about those places?

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Overcomer's avatar

What does the saline drip do??

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Dana Granberg-Nill MD FAAFP's avatar

This was excellent. Thank you for this explanation.

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Overcomer's avatar

Informative, thanks.

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